On May 27, 1964, President Johnson had telephone conversations about Vietnam with his National Security Adviser McGeorge Bundy and Sen. Richard Russell, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
First, to Mr. Bundy, he said: "It just worries the hell out of me. I don't see what we can ever hope to get out of there. ... I don't believe we can fight them from 10,000 miles away from home and even get anywhere. ... I don't think it's worth fighting for and I don't think we can get out. It's just the biggest damn mess. What is Vietnam worth to me? ... What is it worth to this country?"
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